Through The Mic Of An OutlaW

“All artists, if they are to survive, are forced, at last, to tell the whole story, to vomit the anguish up.” - James Baldwin


“Smothered in contradiction / listen as I explain / the reason that I soak and bathe inside the pain.” - FinaL OutlaW; “Pessimist”


FinaL OutlaW is sick. Lyrically to most. But today, he is fighting a cold.


Dressed in his customary black attire - backwards black fitted hat, loose fitting black-T hanging underneath his black leather jacket, dark jeans, black Timbs - his eyes move constantly as if he is in perpetual thought. Every statement released from his mouth is preceded by a noticeable pause, then, almost on cue, a subsequent sniffle. He speaks in parables as if each of his life’s experiences has undergone its own thorough scientific analysis complete with re-drawn hypothesis‘ and foregone conclusions. And it is those experiences - tragic, triumphant, and everything in between - that shapes James Johnson the person.


It is those same experiences that define FinaL OutlaW the artist.


As we stroll through Manhattan’s Union Square - a symbol of late nineties economic prosperity - looking for a place to park amongst the street performers, independent artists, housewives less day jobs, and NYU students coveting the free wifi, FinaL OutlaW describes his El Salvadorian upbringing in Uptown’s (predominantly Dominican) Dyckman neighborhood. Ingrained at an early age, through perhaps the bleakest window possible, was the value and necessity of commitment.


“I have one brother and one sister. My parents were together. I don’t want to put their business out, but there were a lot of things that didn’t work out so...Lets just say that loyalty was broken a few times. And I did witness some domestic violence. To the point that at one point I was accidentally sprayed in the face with mace. But I don’t hold any grudges, man. I love my parents. I think that beyond the mistakes that they made with each other, they realized that they had a grand responsibility of staying together. So, because you know obviously they had kids. And despite the mistakes and violence that I’ve seen between them - and the disloyalty - they remained together. And thats symbolic in my mind because they committed to one decision and they stayed there. My dad has always been there to support us.”


FinaL OutlaW’s upbringing is less unique than it is common where he’s from - and that story and others like it provides the angst and passion behind some of his most potent lyrics and is undoubtably the reason why his fans connect with them. Tales of witnessing “a group of sixteen dudes” gang stabbing one McDonald’s employee at age nine, or inexplicably dropping his bike to evade a barrage of bullets during a Coney Island shoot out litter his childhood memories. Compound those with the time he watched a van run over a woman with a baby carriage at Van Courtland Park, or that ride on the “L” when the subway train severed a drunken passenger, or that twelve year old girl he knew was buying condoms for “Daddy” - and lines like “I watched the world fall apart through a fire escape” (on his award winning anthem, “Hip Hop Forever”) gain newfound clarity. He carries these and other weighty experiences with him like lyrical pocket change, pulling them out of whenever its time to drop dimes.



Sonically, FinaL OutlaW is often compared to revolutionary Emcees such as dead prez, or (one-time fellow G.A.ME activist) Immortal Technique. His visceral descriptions of common man plight, politically skeptical view points, and vivid, often cynical, depictions of the mind’s most horrific scenarios (“every woman I ever loved was a victim of rape, or “Pessimist’s” gut-wrenching tale of child molestation for example) force the shallow listener (or those searching for an easy reference point) to lump him into the same box as larger-named artists with similar content. But the mere mention of such comparisons is enough to quickly unleash the ire of FinaL OutlaW. “People are like ‘oh, he reminds me of Immortal Technique’. Shut up! Stupid. You haven’t even listened to it. You haven’t even delved into that realm where he’s at, to really understand where he’s coming from!” he says as his eyes fill with a disarming level of annoyance. “A lot of people I feel, unfortunately, are so simplified mentally that they can’t help but compare you to immediately the biggest thing in their head at that point.


The differences between FinaL OutlaW and those to which he’s most frequently compared are significant. He doesn’t believe in revolution of any kind. He doesn’t believe in politics whatsoever. He’s deeply spiritual but far from religious. He believes in “the prophet Muhammad and Jesus Christ the same way he believes in Rosa Parks or Gandhi or Tupac Shakur - great examples of what perseverance and deep faith lead to. The flattering, if not complimentary, nature of such comparisons (dead prez, Immortal Technique) is trumped by the extreme frustration he experiences from pigeon-holing of any kind.


With that being said - and he’ll likely disagree with me for making my own reference point - there is a Tupac-slash-Chuck D-like quality to his music. Each song carries an unavoidable honesty - directly from the heart, never allowing fabrication to erode its message. His voice seems to reverberate over the beat giving size and scale to each syllable spit. His cadence on tracks like “Bring It On” or “Lets Kick It” along with his admittance that he’s “smothered in contradiction” harkens to the late Makavelli. And his live show carries the same weight as his studio tracks complete with near-album clarity. In no way does it sound like he’s swagger-jacking these legends. OutlaW’s style is all his own, lets make that perfectly clear. But the motivational, get-your-ass-up-and-do-something-about-this-shit emotion that this writer receives from listening to (his album) We’re All Gonna Die..., or “Hip Hop Forever” for example - is refreshingly reminiscent to the empowering zone entered when listening to Pac or P.E. Judgement or otherwise, this is a rare and beautiful quality.


In person or on wax - also like Chuck D, also like Tupac - FinaL OutlaW doesn’t dance around his opinions on anyone or anything. When encountered with what he perceives as inequality or injustice, he calls it out directly.


“If someone is going to be flipping burgers and scrubbing toilets and driving buses, pay them a respectful amount that they can actually support their family with and recognize the fact that they are running the country that you’re sitting on. They hold the shit on their shoulders. We built this mutherfucker, yo! And we don’t get the pay check that someone gets for doing something far simpler than degrading yourself to scrub a fuckin’ hospital bathroom.”


OutlaW speaks with the same disdain for prejudice and politics as he does for bloggers, Jay-Z, Kanye, and today’s Hip Hop community. In his world, a spade is a spade and he’s not afraid to name names. “Alot of these bloggers...c’mon yo. You’re trying to be as popular as the artists themselves? That is so stupid. You know? They just automatically like ‘oh yeah, check out this new “Hip Hop Forever” video. It reminds me of a little bit of this dude.‘ Shut up! Stupid...They don’t report on shit!” he states with an ironic chuckle.



“The Hip Hop community that we have right now is such a backstabbing, lying ass community of people...Lets take Kanye West for example..if he was really really really really really that outspoken, he would put his career on the line doing something for the people and not putting his career on the line going POP... But I didn’t feel he was real for many reasons... Theres a lot of things that I feel radical about. But I’m not a radical. I’m just a person with feelings. Cause a radical is a category. Like Jay-Z, I don’t like him...Jay-Z to me is a person who doesn’t give a shit about us. You know? Jay-Z is the type of person who funds movies like that ‘State Property‘ bullshit where theres nothing but violence and mutherfuckers getting killed with baseball bats.”


Through living a tumultuous life such as his - one where his education was hijacked by racial discrimination (excelling in an overcrowded accelerated math class only to be ushered into lower level to make room for an incoming white student); one where he watched the degradation of his parents by detectives while moving through the shelter system; one where he witnessed domestic violence at an early age - the question begs to be asked, what excites FinaL OutlaW about life? What makes him hype about the future? And although his answer to this question is noticeably brief (“I get excited like everybody else. [You] gotta appreciate everything”), there is an uplifting change is his demeanor when he discusses his upcoming West Coast tour, or his next mixtape, Unstoppable Love, or when he talks about his history volunteering and helping those less fortunate. His eyes shine like a child pleasantly relieved that the toys are still there the morning after Christmas Morning. Even a life loaded with trepidation isn’t enough to block from his mind the opportunity of a brighter tomorrow.


As we exit Manhattan's Union Square - home to scattered homeless people, anchored by the now defunct Virgin Music Megastore - its clear that woven within the multi-layered complexity of the artist known as FinaL OutlaW lives a fairly simple person. Honesty, fairness, education, equality and economic prosperity for all - baseline principles achievable only by doing the right things in life drives James Johnson on a daily basis. Along with the recognition of those basic principles, its impossible to deny the contradiction, if not hypocritical nature, of his conversation. He repels quick judgements and shallow comparisons of his music to other artists by uninformed listeners, but makes his own judgements about fellow artists that (he acknowledges) he’s never personally met. He speaks with anger and pain about the hijacking of his education as a youth, but hasn’t pursued a college degree because of his career upswing. Valid or otherwise, excuses are excuses.


And thats what makes FinaL OutlaW’s music so powerful. Thats what he means when he describes himself as “smothered in contradictions”. Those inherent, internal contradictions are part of what connects us all as human beings. It represents a level of humanity that an artist is forced to tap into, as James Baldwin says, if he or she is to survive. Its the reason that Tupac’s music resonates with fans who weren’t yet born when he was alive.


It is these contradictions...and tragedies...and triumphs within the life of James Johnson that define the music of The FinaL OutlaW.


“This is the only real concern of the artist, to re-create out of the disorder of life that order which is art.” - James Baldwin


“And people ask me why I wear black all the time...First of all, I like black. People take you seriously automatically and I’m a serious person.” - FinaL OutlaW



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Not Every Angel Is Innocent

Lurking in the midst of Manhattan's East Village lies The City's livest Hip Hop open mic night - End of the Weak. Rockin' every Sunday night at The Pyramid (Avenue A between 6th and 7th), End of the Weak, or EODUB, showcases top flight lyrical talent from across the 5ive Boroughs, Jersey, CT, etcetera. This isn't some novice shit. These cats can spit. The name, End of the Weak, perfectly fits.


We recently caught up with EODUB part-time host and recording artist, Angel Thomas. Read on and step inside her thoughts on co-hosting with (ill Femcee) Sara Kana, controlling a crowd of Emcees, and “artists out there that should be having way more”. This is the part where you all show love...


TCM: The-Quotable.com here with one-half of (the group) A.S.K., Angel, how are you doing?


Angel: Hey, whats good? How you doin?


TCM: Alright, alright. So, you’re one of the hosts of EODUB, one of the regular Emcees. A.S.K., is this an official group?


Angel: Well actually, you know whats real funny about that is, um, me and SK (Sara Kana) we’ve been down with The Dub for years, you know what I’m sayin? And like, we’ve been trying to get together, not quite make it a ladies night. And it just worked out, me and her, we’re going to be hosting together on a regular basis. And I was just playing around in the house and I was like “oh, you know what you can do, you can ASK us something!”, you know? Cause, you know, my initials is AT, so I play around, I’m where its AT! [Laughs]. Me and SK - remember to ASK somebody! [Laughs] Yeah, so...


TCM: Yall are live on stage, man. Crazy, crazy energy...


Angel: I mean, yeah, SK brings it out. She’s a hard body female so I gotta step up my game. I’m tryna be like her...


TCM: She’s lyrically dope.


Angel: Yeah, she’s definitely, you know, battle champion too.


TCM: Cool. So, from a female standpoint, hosting EODUB - longest running open mic Hip Hop night...


Angel: Longest running weekly Hip Hop open mic. You know, before I take someone else’s credit. Almost 9 years...


TCM: Fair, fair enough. So, are there any challenges to rocking a crowd thats pretty much all Emcees every single night?


Angel: Well you know whats funny? Its actually, you know - our biggest challenges aren’t rocking crowds, cause thats like, you know, and freestyle, thats kinda like what we grew up on. Our biggest thing is crowd control! You know us ladies, we need bouncers or something cause people try to get tough like yo, I’m a rapper! I wanna rap now! Bitches! And we’re like “I can’t believe we have to be this aggressive.” So, you know - respect the ladies! God, you don’t do it when Big Zoo’s up there! Why? Cause he’s Big Zoo!


TCM: Thats probably a big reason why.


Angel: Really, I feel like thats my biggest challenge. Thats it.


TCM: Ok cool. So, one last question - where are you from, by the way?


Angel: Oh, I’m actually from CT (Connecticut), you know what I’m sayin? But I’m a gypsy. I’ve been in New York seven years. You know its not where [you from], its where you AT! [Laughs]. You know?


TCM: So you have a unique perspective hosting such a prolific open mic night. Are there any up and coming artists that you’re really checking for? That you think that are really talented?


Angel: Wow, as far as like, you know, “hopefully they come out and have a record” or “hopefully I’ll see them more doing shows”, you know?


TCM: I guess both. You know, unless [you view it as] a different category?


Angel: I mean like, truthfully, you know, I just feel like theres artists that I feel like should be having way more. You know what I mean? And thats really, like, my thing. I feel like EODUB as a collective - theres so many of us that should be...Well I mean, we made it to BET, MTV2 - I’m not mad at that. And we’ve lasted this long but...


TCM: New York Times.


Angel: I’m waitin’. Yeah. The-Quotable...[Laughs]


TCM: Now you’re official.


Angel: Exactly. I’m really hoping that, you know, my family comes up. You know? Cause, I got Iron Soloman in my fam - the biggest battle champion in, you know, practically the world - and wheres his big check? Basically. Cause we’re grassroots, you know? People don’t realize that we pay every week too. We pay dues, so. You know - I want my family to come up. You know? Jess James. Sara Kana. Me. You know? Poison Pen, make a lot of money. I love you. You know?


TCM: Yo, I’m looking forward to his album coming out (The Money Shot) on August 4th.


Angel: Super excited. Super excited.


TCM: We appreciate it, Angel. It was a pleasure to meet you.


Angel: Anytime! Thank you so much. And we’ll see you every Sunday at the longest weekly Hip Hop open mic in NY?


TCM: Of course. I’m covering the event now, so I’m a regular. Thanks again.


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A Gangster And An Author - Styles P Interview

There’s no pigeon holing Styles P. Any attempt to box him in as simply another “Gangster” rapper is immediately thwarted by the sound of the empowering “I’m Black” or the uplifting “We Gonna Make It”. This founding member of The LOX has built his solo reputation on banging tracks, surprising successes and silencing naysayers. But the thought of Styles P transitioning from rapper to author is arguably his most jarring career turn yet. Following his loaded Brooklyn Hip Hop Festival performance, The-Quotable.com chopped it up with Styles P on that very topic. Microphone check, check, check, check....


TCM: The-Quotable.com here with Styles P. Live show. How do you feel about Brooklyn Bodega?


Styles P: I love it. Love it. Love it. I LOVE IT! I get fuckin crazy here.


TCM: Yo, you got great crowd response, man. Old shit. New shit. The one thing I really want to ask you about is Mr. Invincible, coming out on Nicki Turner Presents...


Styles P: Nicki Turner Presents/Random House. I mean, I just wanted to do something different, like, you know what I’m sayin? I been in Hip Hop a long time. I plan on being in it til I pass. You know what I’m sayin? And besides, um, music theres other things. Theres books. Other things you can do - TV. So I’m just tryin’ to expand my horizons and get into other shit that everybody ain’t into. You know what I’m sayin’? Um, I’m a creative person. I like making shit up. My minds always runnin’, like, you know what I’m sayin? So I figured I’d put it to use.


TCM: Can you get a little into the plot?


Styles P: Its like a jail mystery. Its basically about a dude who ends up, end up going to jail over something that happens and he has his trials and tribulations during the time, but he’s not really sure who he has a problem with, you know what I’m sayin? Its just a righteous dude trying to live righteous. It just shows like, basically, shit happens some times.


TCM: Something everybody can relate to...


Styles P: Yeah. Not everybody. But, you know, people who fuck with me can definitely relate to it. Or, pretty sure they know someone else who can relate to it.


TCM: There you go. So when is it hitting shelves?


Styles P: Um, I’m trying to finish it up like within these next 3 weeks, and then, I figure a couple months after that.


United Front - brokn.englsh Interview


On or off stage, brokn.englsh is a united front. The chemistry between Lyriq2Go, Cion Burris, and Myk Dyaleks is as natural as a vegan diet and immediately apparent upon first introduction. These three mic titans are more than just band members - they are friends. Legitimate homies. They genuinely enjoy kicking it with each other. And that crucial ingredient mixed with pulsating energy and earnest showmanship provides the formula for their eye-locking live show. FACT.


The-Quotable.com kicked it with the Brick City trio just before their Brooklyn Hip Hop Festival debut. Read on muttaskuttas, read on.


TCM: The-Quotable.com chillin with Brokn.Englsh on the eve of let them know how Brokn.Englsh get down. Cause we like to have a good time. And let people know ‘hey its Hip Hop, we can have fun.’ But we give you good quality music as well.


TCM: Now, during the last Show & Prove, you guys had crazy energy. You broke down the old skool dancing, jumping down in the crowd. Are we looking at a similar song set up? What tracks are you going to perform?


C. Burris: Um, I’d say its a similar song set up. Not the exact same show. But a very similar set up. We switched it up a little bit. But when they cut down the time, or cut the 2nd stage, we had to nip a couple things in the bud. But its still going to be an awesome show regardless. You know?


Lyriq2Go: Definitely. Always. Yeah.


TCM: Brooklyn Bodega is now going on its 5th year. This is now becoming an institution in New York - for festivals in general, but for Hip Hop specifically. Can you guys talk a little about the impact the Bodega’s had so far?


C. Burris: Well, honestly I remember from the first one when it was Little Brother, and its real good to see that its come so far. In such a short time, you know...like you said, its become an institution. We’re just happy to be a part of that....


Lyriq2Go: And its crazy because, just last year, we were in Myk’s basement, ‘you know what, next year we’re gonna be on that stage.’ And I ain’t gon’ front, I wast thinkin’ ‘like you crazy!’ But you know what? We here. [Laughs] You know? We here.



Myk Dyalekt: Its all about realizing your dreams, man, and supporting. We have to support the venues. We have things like Brooklyn Hip Hop. We’re from Jersey. We have a Jersey...a Newark Hip Hop Festival that we actually do the same thing with. Its about having people come out and represent for those artists that work all year - run around on hot trains and try to make this music happen for themselves, man.


TCM: B.E. Webisode. Whens the next one dropping?


Lyriq2Go: The next one should be dropping...if not next week...in 2 weeks. But I’m gonna try to make it out next week, cause a lot of people ask me for it. And we got a lot of material, so you gonna see that shortly. Trust me, you gonna enjoy it. Trust me.


Canada Coney Island Connection - Torae & Marco Polo Interview

There’s an LL Cool J-type quality to Coney Island Emcee, Torae. Mama Said Knock You Out-type LL. Lurking behind his pretty-boy mug and humble personality lies a lyrical ferocity impatiently waiting to devastate the mic. In person, Torae is gracious and appreciative of the opportunities before him. On stage, his brolic, B-Boy demeanor and aggressive rhyme style is enough to simultaneously send chills to the eardrum and a bitter-beer-face to the grill. Add that to Marco Polo’s chest thumping, boom-bap production - that somehow feels like 1994 and 2009 at the same time - and the combination is one that immediately captures iPods and captivates crowds.


Following this year’s Brooklyn Hip Hop Festival, we caught up with Torae & Marco Polo, digging into their debut collaborative LP, Double Barrel, rocking with legendary rap label, Duck Down Records, and the Canadian/Coney Island chemistry. Read on muttaskuttas!


TCM: The-Quotable.com here with Torae, Coney Island’s finest. How are you doing?


Torae: I’m great, man. Thanks for having me and all that.


TCM: Absolutely. How do you feel about your show?


Torae: The show was dope, man. It was a beautiful thing to rock out Brooklyn. Crowd was into to it, nahmean? The packed venue - thats always my favorite. Got busy.


TCM: Thats whats up. So, I’ve been following you online. Your Daily Conversation album was dope. Double Barrel is fire all the way through. Its the perfect combination between beats and rhymes and the way I think it looks in the new generation.


Torae: No doubt.


TCM: And in all of your interviews you come across as a real real humble dude despite your aggressive flow. Where does your inspiration come from?


Torae: I mean, I love it. I make music because I love it. I don’t make it to make a million dollars or, you know, ride around in fancy cars and all that. I mean, luxuries in life, they are a beautiful thing. But, I make music from the heart, you know what I’m sayin, whether theres money in it or not. I’m always going to continue to write and get in the booth and go in. You know what I’m sayin? You know, just my personality on the mic is definitely a little different from me as a person. When I’m on the mic I’m, you know, I’m no holds barred ferocious. You know what I’m sayin? In real life I’m just a cool dude.


TCM: On Daily Conversation’s “Switch”, the video footage, the photography, the angle was dope - with the old school Apple shit poppin’ out. You’re switching flows all the way through. Where did the inspiration come from for that?


Torae: Um, you know, I’m real active on the internet. So, I would hear people say ‘Yo, I like Tor. He can rhyme but I don’t like his delivery on this record’ or this and this and that. So I decided to do something to kind of hush the naysayers and show them I can show a little versatility as far as switching up my flow. But still show that its all relative. Like, you know, everybody’s got they own style, they own niche in what they do. And the more you listen to it the more you get accustomed to it, the more you become familiar with it, and its just second nature to you.


TCM: Lets get into Double Barrel. The album’s bangin’ all the way through...


Torae: No doubt. Lets get the homie Marco Polo. Yo, Marco!


TCM: How you doin’ man?


Marco Polo: Good, how you doin?


TCM: We’re getting into a little Double Barrel right now. Props to Port Authority as well. Its still rockin in my iPod.


Marco Polo: I appreciate that. Thank you, sir.


TCM: Can you talk a little about your chemistry as a producer/emcee duo?


Marco Polo: Definitely. I think me and Torae definitely, you know, have the same influences in the stuff we grew up listening to, and what we love about Hip Hop. You know what I’m sayin? Especially East Coast influenced boom-bap. You know, like EPMD, Onyx, Wu-Tang, you know? Real beat driven like Primo and Pete Rock. We wanted to make an album that represented our taste as Hip Hop fans and thats where we connect in the studio, you know what I’m sayin? It makes it easy to work together with like minded individuals. And thats really our approach to this record. Have fun. Make stuff we wanted to hear, that we felt was not being represented right now. So, thats pretty much how it went down.


TCM: So how’d the connection come about? Was it arranged by Duck Down? Did you guys get together yourselves?


Torae: Yeah, we actually put the album together ourselves and then we got with Duck Down. And we actually sat with a few other labels as well. But Duck Down was the perfect fit. Me and Marco actually met in the studio...You know? Thats probably another reason why our chemistry was so ill - cause we met working on the EMC album. We did a skit. You know, [Masta] Ace, who was a good friend of both of ours, called us in to do two individual parts of the skit. I met Marco. We chopped it up. He was working on Port Authority. I’m sorry. New Port Authority Mixtape that promoted Port Authority the album. Um, [He] asked me if I wanted to get down with it, and I was a big fan of his beats. We knocked out two joints for the mixtape. And then we just kind of formed a bond and kept recording. And then we went on the road like, he said and all that. So, you know, we did all that and the next thing you know, we were just recording and Double Barrel in stores.




TCM: So how does it feel to be at Duck Down with the legions?


Torae: Yo, just the fact that those guys even know me is a crazy...yah mean? Like, its a surreal experience. I got everything from the catalogue. You know what I’m sayin? You see that logo, you see quality. You know its Hip Hop. You know its something that...You ain’t even got to hear no songs. You see that logo, you know what it is. And, I live my life like that for so long. Now to be a part of the, you know, part of the history and the legacy is a beautiful thing.


TCM: Specifically, when it comes to the album - looking at the video footage for “Party Crashers”. Thats an aggressive aggressive track but you went the spoof angle with the video. Can you talk about the concept and how that came about?


Marco Polo: You know, a lot of people like to take themselves very seriously, you know what I’m sayin? You know, besides the music. We take our music very seriously but we want to kind of play on the whole, you know what I’m sayin? Have fun with it. Crash the Party. Double Barrel’s gonna come into your spot and, you know, cause a little bit of havoc. And thats what we did for two days when we shot the video.


TCM: Not a bad way to spend two days, right?


Torae: Nah, no doubt.


Marco Polo: It was a giant party. Literally.


TCM: For your next single. What are you looking to follow [Party Crashers] up with?


Torae: Um, I mean the record is out there now. Its 13 tracks, 14 with the intro. We let the people decide what they like. You know what I mean? People make their own singles. You got iPods. You know, you got playlists and things. You got blogs and podcasts. So people are going to make their own favorites. They gonna pick them. They gonna select them. We went with “Party Crashers” for the video just because it was one of those songs that you we can do a lot of things visually with. And thats what sometimes people lose is they have a dope song on the album but visually it doesn’t do as much. So “Party Crashers” is one of those records that lent itself to being a good video. You know, cause on the vinyl - we got “Double Barrel” and “Hold Up” on the vinyl. And “Combat Drills” is our vinyl single. So, you know, its up to the people to decide whatever they like and what they want and, you know, thats what it is.


TCM: Well look, from my point of view, I want to see “Coney Island”. I want to see yall finish that Training Day video. I want to see that track all the way through. Thats a great look.


Marco Polo: Word. Word. Word.


Torae: [Laughs] Ha. Thanks. Good looking out, homie.

Brown Bag Allstars - Ain't Hard To Find

These days, Brown Bag Allstars ain’t hard to find. Maybe you’ve seen their raucous live show at Southpaw, or Public Assembly, or Homegrown Project. Maybe you caught their towel-waving Mainstage performance at this year’s Brooklyn Hip Hop Festival. Or perhaps you ran into them on their day job - running the legendary Fat Beats record shop. Maybe you haven’t seen them at all - and this is your introduction. Either way, the name Brown Bag Allstars is gaining in notoriety like wine flavored Black-N-Milds and Bud Light Lime.


The-Quotable.com chopped it up with BBAS right before their amplified BHF09 performance. Read on as we addressed Brown Bag Season, Sprite Zero, and the pros and cons of a Fat Beats cosign.


TCM: The-Quotable.com, chillin here with 5 members of Brown Bag Allstars, man. How do you guys feel? J57?


J57: We are feeling good, man. Ready to go out there and destroy the stage.


TCM: Thats whats up. Now, I’ve heard a lot of new tracks off of Brown Bag Season. Soundin’ pretty good. What can we expect from that project?


Soul Khan: Thank you.


Audible Doctor: More of the same stuff.


Soul Khan: Theres going to be some curve balls. Pause. Theres gonna be some curve balls.


TCM: OK


Soul Khan: Theres gonna be some stuff that knocks people for a loop. I’m not gonna divulge anything but we’re definitely doing some different stuff coming up. And a lot of its coming from, like, one of our secret weapon - not so secret anymore - um, Marink who we’ve inducted as a crew producer. And he’s, if you follow the Brown Bag Season joints, he’s produced a number of them. And he’s got more dope ones coming up.


TCM: Whens the release date on that?


J57: On the...


TCM: On Brown Bag Season?


J57: Its gonna end in September. 2 tracks a week until September. Thats what we’ve been doing.


TCM: Are you going to release that as an actual album?


Koncept: Yeah, as a mixtape. We’ll probably put it out as a free download. Um, free CD.



Soul Khan: We’re actually giving some of the songs away today on CD. For the stuff thats already out, given that we have it on that one CD, we’ll probably put it on a Rare file or ZIP file and upload it for the people getting on Myspace. Put it up on blogs. Um, they should’ve got them all up anyway. But if they haven’t, its time to recap.


TCM: Thats whats up. I have a question for you Koncept and Soul Khan. I see you guys more often than I see everyone else. Is that just coincidence? Whats the reason why I see you more often?


J57: They have projects coming out.


Koncept: Yeah, we have projects coming out. [Soul Khan] has Wrath of Khan coming out, his solo mixtape. I’ve got my second solo mixtape as well as an EP coming out. So, uh, I guess thats really the main reason.


Soul Khan: I’m going to speak for Audible Doctor and J57 because I feel like doing that right now. Audible Doctor and J are both incredible producers so their working on a lot of production heavy projects right now. My homie J57 has 2 instrumental albums coming out in the future on Balance Records. And they’re very dope. AMD, has stuff I’m not going to mention because he may not actually live up to it and doing something else instead. Uh, but he has a surprise that I convinced him to do. So watch out, August or September he’s got a surprise. Classic surprise.


Koncept: And even though you see, like you said, ‘I see you and you the most’ its not like that because, regardless, J’s producing the track, or Audible Doctor’s producing the track. So, its not like you’re just seeing us. Like, they’re just as much in the spotlight as we are.


Soul Khan: Or I order the pizza over at J’s house. Or..


Koncept: And he has Sprite Zero or something...


Soul Khan: Exactly. I don’t wanna put him on blast for having Sprite Zero in his fridge. He lives with his fiance. Its a beautiful relationship...


[Laughs]


TCM: On the production side, how does it actually work? I know you guys have a stable of producers...How do you guys go through your creative process?


Audible Doctor: For making the beats or picking the beats?


TCM: Both. Picking beats, making beats.


J57: Uh, I guess...with making the beats - whatever inspires me at the time. You know? A lot of incredible producers I’m happy to be friends with - like Marco Polo - cats like that. You know, they‘ll play us their new shit that nobody’s heard yet. And I go home and I’m like ‘Gotdamn, I’m making new beats.‘ Straight up. Shouts to the homie Marco. He should be here any second. Thats how I do it. But as far as picking the beats, me and Audible Doctor or Rink we’ll play our new beats for the whole crew at Fat Beats where we all work. And, if only Koncept’s there or Soul Khan’s there, they’ll hear our beats. Or if I’m there, I’ll hear it - Audible Doctor playing his new beat - we’ll hear that and run over to him and be like ‘don’t do anything with that beat. Don’t send that to any of the million artists you’re working with. We’re using that for Brown Bag. For Brown Bag Season or the album depending on how crazy it is.


Audible Doctor: Thats pretty much how it works. Whenever either one of us makes something new we play it for them, or send it out or whatever. And its pretty...its usually pretty unanimous. Like, everybody’s like ‘yes we’re going to use it‘ or everybody’s like ‘no, we’re not going to use it’. Its usually a pretty even vote, you know what I mean?


TCM: Absolutely. And my last question - given that your group is so large and that you guys work for Fat Beats, which is an institution - what access has that afforded to you? Has that been a benefit to you? Or have you guys been pigeon holed because you work for Fat Beats and people think that you get things handed to you?


Soul Khan: Let [Audible Doctor] speak on it.


Audible Doctor: I think. I mean, it goes both ways. I think it really goes both ways. Pause. Um, its definitely a benefit. Just being there you meet a lot of people. Its a great place. Like, we all met each other there. You know? Thats where we formed Brown Bag was Fat Beats. But I think it also hinders you because...its...some people tend to over look you because...they’re trying to get something out of it and they’re not necessarily looking at the artistry of it. You know? So it really goes both ways. Like, today for example, we had to literally close Fat Beats cause Brown Bag is here performing, you know? Like, Fats Beats the store is close right now because we’re here. This is the first time I think ever that they’ve closed because the staff is performing at an event.


TCM: Congratulations. You guys already made history today.


Audible Doctor: Thank you. [Laughs]


TCM: Anything you guys want to say to your fans? To Quotable Nation?


J57: Mighty Healthy. Shouts to Mighty Healthy Clothing Company for lacing us with all this nice gear for the show - sponsoring Brown Bag Allstars. Thank you guys.


Soul Khan: Shirts upon shirts upon shirts upon shirts!


J57: And also shouts to Brooklyn Bodega cause you guys put us on!


Soul Khan: Wes!


J57: Wes Jack!


TCM: I know you guys have your set coming up. What can we expect from you set?


J57: Energy! Energy! Energy! Oh my god, I’m gonna lose my mind on stage!


TCM: Ok! Energy and cart wheels.


Audible Doctor: I’m doing back flips!


J57: I don’t mean to cut you off. I‘m going crazy right now cause I know we’re up next. I’m gonna, like, do a headspin and like propeller kick. Kick these heads off their bodies. On some real ish, I’m not cause today I’m love and peaceful. Cause I’m on some Woodstock but for Hip Hop ish. But I’m sayin - Energy! Oh my god, we’re goin in! You have no idea. We’re going to show some people some ish.


TCM: Well, thats what you guys are known for. We appreciate it.